As part of the old Austria-Hungary (which lost WW1), Yugoslavia (“Land of the Southern Slavs”) formed in 1918 as a union of multiple republics. After WW2, Communism came to Yugoslavia. During his 30+ year resign, Josip Tito held the republics together. In the years following his death in 1980, the union began to crumble.
In 1984, the world learned about Sarajevo, the host of the 1984 Winter Olympics. From 1992 to 1996, a bombing siege destroyed many of the Olympic facilities. It was during this time, we watched the news to hear unfamiliar names and places.
Most of us probably knew little about names like Milan Martić and Slobodan Milošević and places as Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Montenegro, Kosovo, and more. Besides, we probably didn’t know enough to understand what happening.
The conflict in the mid-1990s is known by a variety of names – most depending on one’s perspective – The Croatian War of Independence, the Homeland War, the Greater-Serbian Aggression, the Patriotic War, the War in Croatia, the Conflict in Yugoslavia, and I’m confidence there are more.
A conflict involving Communism and democracy – centralization and decentralization – nationalism and ethnicity – Christians and Muslims – the battle for power and control.
A five-year battle involving over 20,000 killed from battle and genocide, 500,000 refugees, 200,000 displacements, 180,000 housing units destroyed, severely damaged infrastructure, and a crippled economy.
The tour took a side-trip into a small town that where we could see some physical effects remaining today – bombed buildings (some being restored, others not). Houses with numerous bullet holes while their neighbors were bullet free. A small park with military equipment.
From what we’ve seen and heard from others Croatia is a beautiful country and a wonderful place to visit. Yet, our relatively recent memory reminds us of a time that wasn’t that long ago.
Enjoyed reading this Frank. On my European van journey, I made it to many of these countries part of that war in the early 90s. I was particularly drawn in by Bosnia, which still wore so many very visible effects of the war. The people were absolutely beautiful, eager to share their stories and their beautiful country.
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Rachel,
Wow … I haven’t been to Bosnia, so the fact it drew you in speaks for itself. War anywhere hurts – but seeing the buildings, military equipment, and the bullet holes in buildings brought back the memories of seeing the conflict on the news. Thanks for sharing.
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I’ve heard Croatia is beautiful, too. As you mention, the roots of the conflict(s) there go back centuries. I’ve read a bit about it in covering the war crimes there.
There was a Modern Love podcast about a girl’s first kiss/first love in Bosnia. They came from different backgrounds, which didn’t make a difference until the conflict started. I may have mentioned it before for Dale because it’s read by the actress in Cold War. https://www.npr.org/podcasts/469516571/modern-love
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Merril,
I’ve only see a small bit of Croatia, but it’s beauty does shine. In terms of the conflict, I can’t imagine the stories around personal relationships in the midst of conflicts. Thanks for sharing the podcast, which I bookmarked!
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What part of the country did you visit and when? We’ll be going to Croatia this fall.
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On a cruise we cruised Dubrovnik and Split … both excellent ports. On a recent inland tour (Rick Steves, Eastern Europe), we visited Plitvice National Park (fascinating) and Rovine (a resort town on the Adriatic). Links of posts below:
Plitvice https://afrankangle.wordpress.com/2018/10/16/on-walktober-2018/
Rovine https://afrankangle.wordpress.com/2018/12/16/on-rovinj-croatia/
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I’ll check them out. Thanks!
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Centuries of hate will boil up now and then. We can’t hope to understand it. Thanks for the views, Frank
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John,
Yep – and humanity doesn’t learn well from its history.
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That’s because we are humans. Animals learn fast. Humans not so much.
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Luckily for animals, they have a lot less to learn than humans: there are only a few ways an animal could die – a predator, a disease, an accident, but human civilization invented a ton of ways to kill each other, and even more reasons to.
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X,
Thanks for extending the thought.
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Good points all.
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War and genocide will never stop being common place. Because it’s not what we learn from history that is the problem, it’s what we forget.
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Marc,
Agree … simply put, humanity is its own biggest problem.
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Sadly, this is true. I remember when we started learning about the genocide and thinking . . it had happened how many times over already, and there we were going, again. And since then, more of the same.
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Yep – humanity’s biggest enemy is itself.
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Wish it were as simple as learning from history.
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Agree …. teaching hate within a culture passes on the mindset.
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Marc said exactly what I wanted to.
Most interesting bit of history you have shared with us.
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Dale,
What got to me the most here were the bullet holes in the buildings. A house riddled with holes but the neighbor’s house unscathed.
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Luck of the draw, so to speak ..
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Probably Muslim Serbs in the bullet holes houses …. Catholic Croat homes not bothered.
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Probably
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It still baffles the mind how that ‘conflict’ played out with all its incomprehensible atrocities. Having been to Split, I can certainly attest that indeed it is a beautiful and fascinating country.
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Monika,
Split was interesting … personally, I like Dubrovnik more. … then the parts we saw on last year’s Rick Steves venture were good, too! Meanwhile, although not fighting at the moment, I imagine the place is remains a powder keg.
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And probably always will. ☹️
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Sigh! This might be where the world is headed, Frank. Nothing has really changed. It is just that one war is halted, for now.
For me, religion is at the crux.
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Resa,
Conflict has been around a long time. I doubt if humanity has ever experienced a time without conflict. Religion the cause? Sometimes – but religion has also prevented conflicts … and we forget about those who promoted conflict that we not religious – and even went after the religious. For me, I point to economics, politics, and the desire of power and control.
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Agree!
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❦https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk❦ Edwin Starr – War What Is It Good For
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A very dark time in that region. One of my dearest friends is Croatian, I think it is in one of the worlds most beautiful countries. Thanks for the brief on that part of our world.
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Holly,
I imagine that’s a conflict that most of us didn’t understand. Cheers to your Croatian friend!!!!
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Thank you Frank. I’ll pass it on
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Great slides of these war relics. A most informative post, aFrank. It must have
been incredible to stand in the place where history, despite the evilness of it,
took place.
Isadora 😎
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Isadora,
For me, there was an eeriness and sadness seeing this site and remember the news. Sure it seems calm now, but I wonder how much tensions are still present.
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I think I can understand that feeling your describing, aFrank. Your descriptions gave me a chill and I felt so sorry for all. There are never any that go unscathed from war. I’m sure it’s something you’ll remember for a long time. Thanks for sharing your journey.
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Bottom line – War is something no resident wants to happen.
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In the ’90s I did follow the news and made some attempt to “follow along,” but I had a very difficult time.I think that atrocities of genocide were not lost on me, however. Your travels have brought the history of that region very close and I would imagine made a strong impact. The effects of the war on the buildings and artifices are a reminder that the conflicts weren’t all that long ago. I enjoyed the information shared, Frank.
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In 1999, I rode a train through many of those former Yugoslavian countries, stopping in Bosnia. Someone told us about a stone bridge held together entirely of well-fitting interlocking stones and nothing more–a real engineering marvel–that had been in place for centuries, but was now destroyed by the war. I saw the remains of it. It was so sad.
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Betsy,
I can’t imagine what you observed on the trip so soon after the conflict! Thanks for sharing!!!!
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